To say a chip marketing for games is better at games, especially when overclocked, albeit marginally and not really in real world usage is like saying the sky is blue. To compare a multimedia CPU like the current 16 thread Ryzen chips to a gaming-centric I7 7700k is ridiculous.
It is an entire platform and the question to a consumer is whether it is a worthy upgrade from their already existing platform at a reasonable price. This isn't a processor released in a vacuum.
Who cares if it doesn't benchmark as well when the GPU can hit high FPS beyond refresh rate? It just doesn't matter to the overall experience. It just doesn't matter whether you have 80 or 100 or 200 or whatever it may be. It just drives me bonkers that people keep citing frames per second you will never see at any resolution on 60hz displays like 4k TVs I currently use. There are also games when that is reversed and AMD offers MORE performance, yet those games aren't mentioned.
As it stands now we are looking at a 5-20FPS difference at 1080P not exactly a deal breaker for most going from 140FPS to 120FPS. If all you want to do is game than wait for AMD to drop the quad and six core parts and see how they clock. Certainly the 6900K and 6950X are trash in this situation as well with their lower clockspeed and worse performing multithreaded IPC. Saying these offer a lackluster gaming performance means quite simply that X99 offers NO gaming performance at all since at stock I do not believe there is a single 2011v3 or v4 CPU that offers better performance in most games.
This isn't a top clocked item, the efficiency they provide in multithreading makes them a better choice as more titles move to vulkan/DX12 regardless of model purchased and they are offering such a huge jump over the FX series it isn't even funny. !!!Thuban coming soon, new secret Gigabyte mobo too !!! Seasonic 500W and Seasonic 650W, Corsair AX 1200W, Zalman Goldrock 750, Galaxy OC edition 1200W HAF 922, Aspire X-Cruiser, benchtable Wroom Kingston Hyper X, 1600 A-Data 2000x, Corsair Dominator GT 2000 MHz, GSkill TridentX 2400MHz, HyperX The blaming game played here is uncalled for.Īthlon 3000+ Venice, Athlon x2 4600+ EE Windsor,x4 955 AIR, X4 965 BE, x4 970 BE, 圆 1090TĪsus C5F-Z, Asus C5F, Asus C4E, Asus C4F, Asus RIIIE, Asus R4E, Asus M5F, Asus M6F, Asus M7H,Ĭorsair H100, Swiftech H220, CM Hyper 212, Xigmatek 1283 DK+Ultra Kaze, CM V6GT, Noctua NHD14 Either you accommodate (like the "other guys" did with their multi-threading), or you get in touch and hope for some changes on the OS developers' part. If, if, that is the case, then no offense, but while i have many complaints about Microsoft, this wouldn't be one of them.Įdit: And it looks like it is, as AMD itself has suggested disabling SMT for now, giving the above some credence.Īs a manufacturer, you know in advance what the OS does and does not. (Win 10 cannot distinguish between two threads and two cores, sees two threads as two different cores ergo it can occasionally "ask" said same Ryzen core to do both the integer and the floating, hence the performance drop). Ryzens need one core=two threads doing integers, a second core=two different threads doing floats. Read in a different site that the major culprit is the way their SMT functions, namely in terms of integer and floating points division between the threads. Just say we're working with them, it's new tech, blah blah, and call it a day. (likewise with the gaming performance like someone else in this forum said, don't blame the game devs, their games were out before Ryzen was out. It sells itself dammit, so why exaggerate. Minimum performance difference, unfelt for the majority of us, and at half the price. The chip is perfect far as i'm concerned. I honestly thought they'd have learned after previous similar events. Why lie? Why, when they will find out a few days later and call you out on it? They overdid it with the PR, too aggressive i tend to think and we can already see the blowback. Had you pegged as much older.Īs to the wattage, yeah, it's why i asked, lol You express yourself quite well for your age and show a maturity to match. Not sure what this entails in terms of age (nowadays people get back at any age), but if statistically speaking it means what i think it means, my respect.